{"id":173,"date":"2010-04-16T07:21:00","date_gmt":"2010-04-16T07:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/?p=173"},"modified":"2015-01-14T18:35:24","modified_gmt":"2015-01-14T18:35:24","slug":"permanent-urls-addresses-and-names","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/?p=173","title":{"rendered":"Permanent URLs, Addresses and Names"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I found a link to an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oreillynet.com\/xml\/blog\/2008\/06\/post_7.html\">article by Taylor Cowan<\/a> about persistent URLs   on the web.   It was mostly about what happens to metadata  assertions   (such as RDF statements) when links break, but there was a little  something on   persistent links and URNs, too. A comparison with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/\">Amazon.com<\/a> <i><\/i>and how books   are referenced these days was made. A way to map the ISBN  number as a   URN was described (<b><i>URN:ISBN:0-395-36341-1<\/i><\/b> was mapped   to a location by the <i>PURL<\/i>   service, in this case at <i>http:\/\/purl.org\/urn\/isbn\/0-395-36341-1<\/i>),    which is quite cool and, in my opinion, both manageable and practical.<\/p>\n<p>The author thought otherwise,   however: <q>But on the practical   web, we don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t use PURLs or URNs for books, we use the Amazon.com url. I  think   in practical terms things are going to be represented on the web by  the domain   that has the best collection with the best open content.<\/q><\/p>\n<p>Now, what&#8217;s wrong about this? At   first, it may seem reasonable that<i> <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/\">Amazon.com<\/a>, indeed the   domain with the (probably) <i>largest<\/i> collection of book   titles, authors, and so on, should be used. Books are their business  and they   depend on offering as many titls as possible. In the everyday world,  if you   want to find a book, you look it up at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/\">Amazon.com<\/a><i><\/i>. I do it and   you do it, and the author does it. So what&#8217;s wrong about it?<\/p>\n<p>Well, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/\">Amazon.com<\/a> does not   provide persistent content per se, they provide a commercial service funded by  whatever books they sell.   At any time, they may decide to change the availability of a title,  relocate   its page, offer a later version of the same title, or even some other  title   altogether. The latter is unlikely, of course, but since we are  talking about   URLs, <i>addresses<\/i>, rather   than URNs, <i>names<\/i>, talking   about the URL when discussing what essentially is a name is about as  relevant   as talking about the worn bookshelf in my study when discussing the   <i>Chicago Manual of   Style<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, I realise that my example is a bit extreme, and I realise that it&#8217;s easy enough to make the necessary assertions in RDF to properly reference something described by the address rather than the address itself, but to me, this highlights several key issues: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>An address, by its very nature,     is not persistent. Therefore, a &#8220;permanent URL&#8221; is to me a bit of an     oxymoron. It&#8217;s a contradiction in terms.<\/li>\n<li>Even if we accept a &#8220;permanent URL approach&#8221;, should     we accept that the addresses are provided and controlled by a  commercial     entity? One of the reasons to why some of us advocate XML so  vigorously is that     it is open and owned by no-one. Yes, I know perfectly well that we  always rely     on commercial vendors for everything from editors to databases, but  my point     here is that <i>we still own our     data, the commercial vendors don&#8217;t own it.<\/i> I can take my data elsewhere.<\/li>\n<li>Now, of course, in the world of     metadata it&#8217;s sensible to give a &#8220;see-also&#8221; link (indeed     that is what Mr Cowan suggests), but the problem is that the &#8220;see-also&#8221; link is     another URL with the same implicit problems as the primary URL.<\/li>\n<li>URLs have a hard time     addressing (yes, the pun is mostly    intentional) the problem with versioning a document. How many times     have you looked up a book at<i> <\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/\">Amazon.com<\/a> <i><\/i>and found either  the     wrong version or a list of several versions, some of which even list the  wrong     book?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Of course, I&#8217;m as guilty as anyone because I do that, too. I point to exciting new books using a link to<i> <\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/\">Amazon.com<\/a>  (actually I order my books from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bookdepository.com\/\">The Book Depository<\/a>, mostly) because it&#8217;s convenient. But if we discuss the principle rather than what we all do, it&#8217;s (in my opinion) wrong to suggest that the practice is the best way to solve a problem that stems from <i>addressing<\/i> rather than <i>naming<\/i>. It&#8217;s not a solution, it merely highlights the problem.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I found a link to an article by Taylor Cowan about persistent URLs on the web. It was mostly about what happens to metadata assertions (such as RDF statements) when links break, but there was a little something on persistent links and URNs, too. A comparison with Amazon.com and how books are referenced these days [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[125,126,127,95],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/173"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=173"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/173\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=173"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=173"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sgmlguru.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=173"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}